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Sacconi Tailpiece pivot block
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:07 pm
by Greg Martin
Why is the pivot block under the tail piece necessary on archtops but not on violins or cellos??
Re: Sacconi Tailpiece pivot block
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:46 am
by Michael Lewis
It's not necessary, at least on the archtops I have made or worked on, which includes some very high end instruments.
Re: Sacconi Tailpiece pivot block
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:35 am
by David King
The violin family use a gut or nylon cord that bends easily like a hinge. My bass has a braided stainless steel cable loop. I've seen some busted hinges on guitars and banjos, especially the cast ones.
Re: Sacconi Tailpiece pivot block
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:59 am
by Dave Stewart
As long as you seat it properly on the tailblock, nothing wrong with using a raised violin-style saddle as the fulcrum for the sacconi. I preferred it to the inelegant (& spruce-denting) pivot glued to the tailpiece underside. But that's just me.
Re: Sacconi Tailpiece pivot block
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 11:22 am
by Greg Martin
After thinking on this I can see where a bone or ebony block would lessen the chance of gut breaking and I can see it as protection when metal cable is used but why a fulcrum block as well, on the under side of the tail ala Benedetto ? Does it have something to do with tone or holding the tail in place maybe?
Re: Sacconi Tailpiece pivot block
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:15 pm
by Dave Stewart
???
Regardless, you need something very hard for the cable to "break" (in the "break angle" sense of the word) over .... otherwise it will dig it's own groove.
By "raising" that something (ie making the saddle higher, like a violin), you lift the tailpiece high enough that you don't need the underside piece to maintain clearance from the top.
Re: Sacconi Tailpiece pivot block
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 3:41 pm
by Greg Martin
makes sense Dave thanks