Animal/human figurehead on classic violins?
Animal/human figurehead on classic violins?
Did any of the classic Cremona (or other) makers carve animal or human figureheads instead of standard scrolls on their necks? And if so, is there somewhere on the web to view them? Thanks!
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Re: Animal/human figurehead on classic violins?
I know that Norwegian Hardanger fiddles often had (have) them, but I don't know if you'd call them "classic."
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Carved heads were common on viols/viola da gambas. Search "viol headstock" and similar on Google images and you will find a few.
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Jacob Stainer was known to carve lion heads in place of scrolls on some of his violins. Some of the Cremonese makers also carved figureheads from time to time on their fiddles. It was more commonly done than it is today, but there are some fairly recent mass produced fiddles with lion heads in place of the scrolls.
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I don't know too much about the classical builders, but you might enjoy a look at the work of Eric Aceto.
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Check out orepheon.org you will see carved heads on violins viols and viol de gambas. as well as 5 string violins and many other interesting things from the period.
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Yes, there is a huge artistic range on the viol family of instruments, and its not just the carved scrolls. Well worth the effort of looking.
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Here is a link to a youtube interview with Gary Karr. The bass he is using has a lady's head scroll. If I might suggest, surf through the postings of Gary playing. If you aren't familiar with his playing, you're in for something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR-UE1AQ ... ure=relmfu
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR-UE1AQ ... ure=relmfu
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Sorry to be a Johnny come lately as well as a contrarian but I don't believe any of the Cremona school used figurines on their violin scrolls. Viols, viola da bracios, and other Italian schools possibly. Steiner, as mentioned, has one from 1672 that is quite famous.
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I decided to attempt a lion-head viola. Because I wan't sure I could do it, I chose to carve the head of very hard, plain maple, and then graft the head onto a normal, figured neck, and proceed as with a regular neck/scroll.
Here is the head, as it stands so far-- I will do the graft next, so that I can cut the pegbox down to its normal width (the billet is still full width, in the photos). I already drilled pilot holes for pegs, just because it is easier at this stage to get them parallel. I also (though not shown in the photo) have already carved the fluting on the back of the pegbox, along the layout lines. When the pegbox is cut to normal width, I will finish carving the mane, and fairing it into the pegbox cheeks, so that it clears the D-peg holes with a comfortable margin.
So far, I am feeling encouraged about it. For a first try, anyway, I think I may end up liking it.
Thanks for looking. I will post more photos as it nears completion.
Chet
Here is the head, as it stands so far-- I will do the graft next, so that I can cut the pegbox down to its normal width (the billet is still full width, in the photos). I already drilled pilot holes for pegs, just because it is easier at this stage to get them parallel. I also (though not shown in the photo) have already carved the fluting on the back of the pegbox, along the layout lines. When the pegbox is cut to normal width, I will finish carving the mane, and fairing it into the pegbox cheeks, so that it clears the D-peg holes with a comfortable margin.
So far, I am feeling encouraged about it. For a first try, anyway, I think I may end up liking it.
Thanks for looking. I will post more photos as it nears completion.
Chet
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Re: Animal/human figurehead on classic violins?
That looks great! I wish I could carve half as well...
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Thanks, Jim.
We'll see how it turns out.
Chet
We'll see how it turns out.
Chet
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Jim McConkey wrote:That looks great! I wish I could carve half as well...
I have to agree.
I must say Chet. This is pretty impressive.
In my opinion, right now, the 3/4 front profile view, really show what life this face has. The peaceful staring of the eyes, and yet the concentrating in them... it makes the entire face, very convincing.
Too cool, Chet.
Me like.
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Thanks, Craig.
I have never liked the "snarling" heads (dragons, gargoyles, lions, whatever) I wanted peaceful dignity. I'm glad you could see that...makes me feel good.
Thanks again,
Chet
I have never liked the "snarling" heads (dragons, gargoyles, lions, whatever) I wanted peaceful dignity. I'm glad you could see that...makes me feel good.
Thanks again,
Chet
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Re: Animal/human figurehead on classic violins?
I finally was able to go back and spend a little more time on this viola. I had been intimidated by the prospect of grafting a neck block onto the head I had begun, but last Saturday, I went ahead with it.
The plates are partially completed, and the garland is essentially complete. Here are some pictures:
Sorry they are somewhat blurry...I was using only ambient light, and no tripod. Must have moved a little. I will post more photos as it progresses.
If you look closely, you can see the graft line-- the neck block is figured maple, whereas the head is very plain, hard rock maple.
The plates are partially completed, and the garland is essentially complete. Here are some pictures:
Sorry they are somewhat blurry...I was using only ambient light, and no tripod. Must have moved a little. I will post more photos as it progresses.
If you look closely, you can see the graft line-- the neck block is figured maple, whereas the head is very plain, hard rock maple.
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Wow! That is great, you should be very proud.
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We'll see how it turns out. Still lots of room to make a mess of things.
I will post more pictures when I am further along.
I will post more pictures when I am further along.
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Very nice Chet!
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Hi There used to be a guy who posted here called Andrew Scott, he did a dragon violin and some other similar giraffe cello. He hasn't posted for some time, I just tried to Google him and if you Google Blindworm it will find a link. Great carving, love that lion
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Thanks. You are right, the giraffe cello and the dragon violin were quite impressive. I tend to stay a little more on the traditional side. The occasional shell inlay or (in this case) lion-head is about as far afield as I have gone. No snapping turtle banjos, yet, nor armadillo mandolins.
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