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Baroque Guitar
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:46 am
by Patrick DeGreve
My younger brother Marty is a classical guitar player, so when I started building guitars a few years ago, one of my first thoughts was to build a baroque guitar for him. After a year of research I decided to give it a try. I started with the GAL plan #27, and the article in the Big Red Book #2 (
http://www.luth.org). I used the GAL plan for dimensions, bracing, and scale length, but I used the Jan Vermeer painting for my decoration. This proved to be a very rewarding project. I had to make some very interesting decisions on whare to draw the line in regard to historical accuracy vs playability (more on that later), but first a few pictures.
Re: Baroque Guitar
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:50 am
by Patrick DeGreve
This a picture of the Jan Vermeer painting. I changed the rope binding from maple/rosewood to maple/bloodwood at the neck body joint, to add a little color to the body.
Re: Baroque Guitar
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:52 am
by Patrick DeGreve
Here is a photo from the front view.
Re: Baroque Guitar
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:01 am
by Patrick DeGreve
The soundboard is bearclaw sitka spruce, the sides are mahogany with rosewood binding. The back of the GAL plan has a very arched back. I decided to build more of a flat back. I used 3/4 inch strips of maple and mahogany glued on a 15 ft. radius disk. I added 1/2 inch of depth to the sides to "make up" for the loss in volume due to not using such an arch on the back.
Re: Baroque Guitar
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:09 am
by Patrick DeGreve
One of the changes made for playability was to add a saddle to the bridge. I made the bridge from three pieces of rosewood. The center of the bridge I pinned with maple dowel. The mustache are 1/8 inch rosewood hand carved, and glued to the soundboard.
Re: Baroque Guitar
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:22 am
by Patrick DeGreve
In the Vermeer painting you can't tell what the rosette really is. I made a celtic rose design and had one of my scenic artists cut it on our CNC router as a training exercise. It is made from 1/8 inch cherry, and gold leaf. One of the other changes I made was to use fret wire in place of tied gut frets. I am still not sure about this one, but my brother and I thought it was the best idea for a working guitar. I also added a K&K style pad transducer pickup under the bridge so Marty can plug this into his amp when performing.
Re: Baroque Guitar
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:27 am
by Patrick DeGreve
I bought some banjo pegs, but decided not to use them. I used ebony friction pegs, and they are working out fine.The neck is maple, rosewood, and mahogany, with rosewood/maple rope binding.
Re: Baroque Guitar
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:40 am
by Patrick DeGreve
I gave the Baroque guitar to my brother last weekend, and he said he was very happy with it. He played one of my favorite pieces on it for me ( Gaspar Sanz "Canarios") and it has a very nice tone. However, even though the tone is very nice, the string tension seems too "loose" to me. I put medium tension nygut strings on it, but I think it needs high tension strings. Marty said he would try the high tension strings, but was still very happy with it. This was a very good project. I still have all the molds, and jigs, so I will probably build another one at some time (maybe with gut frets).
Re: Baroque Guitar
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:48 am
by Steve Senseney
Very nice!
Looks very close to the picture.
What is the scale length?
Re: Baroque Guitar
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:48 am
by Barry Guest
There's a lot of love, patience and and fine measure of expertise in there. Love it!
Re: Baroque Guitar
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:23 am
by Charlie Schultz
Very nice Patrick! I've got that plan (it's the one by Brune', right?) and it's on my to-do list. From what I understand (which isn't much), the baroque guitar takes a little different technique and somewhat "floppy" strings are natural. This might be helpful:
http://www.classicalguitardelcamp.com/v ... 821f052fd6
Re: Baroque Guitar
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:06 am
by Dave Stewart
Beautiful interpretation from a great masterpiece by a true master!
Re: Baroque Guitar
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:59 am
by Ron Belanger
Very nice!
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Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:52 am
by Waddy Thomson
Excellent job. Looks great.
Re: Baroque Guitar
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:19 pm
by Patrick DeGreve
Thanks for the kind comments everybody! This was a fun project. Steve the scale length is 68.8 cm. Yes Charlie this was the R.E.Brune' plans. Thanks Charlie for the link to the string tension. I will have my brother read it. I bought him a set of high tension nygut strings to try, and a set of Roosebeck baroque strings as well. He will get used to it I am sure. I liked the tone of it, it just seemed loose to play.
Re: Baroque Guitar
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:38 pm
by Bryan Bear
Nice job!
Re: Baroque Guitar
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:12 pm
by Gilbert Fredrickson
Beautiful guitar. I've been drawing up a guitar based on the Rawlings Stradivarius. Your rosette is very, very nice.
Re: Baroque Guitar
Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:06 pm
by Louie Atienza
Beautiful guitar Patrick, it really catches the feel of the original in the painting....
Re: Baroque Guitar
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:02 am
by Matthew Lau
Nice!
Lucky brother
Re: Baroque Guitar
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:09 am
by Dennis Duross
Patrick:
I would be interested if you happened to have a photo essay on the rope binding process just lying around that you wouldn't mind sharing.