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Re: Replace X- braces without removing top?
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:54 pm
by Bob Gramann
Instead of the popsicle brace, I’ve been filling the space between the upper brace and the block with a piece of spruce with the grain angle running 45 degrees to the top. The fit is tight so that the block can’t migrate into the soundhole. The only good picture I have at the moment is a 12 fret, but the concept is the same on a 14.
Re: Replace X- braces without removing top?
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:52 pm
by Barry Daniels
Nice.
Re: Replace X- braces without removing top?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:51 am
by Tom Frei
So what does the PMTE shim do?
Also, If I buy Adi tops, whom do (you) recommend for highest .density tops ( IYO) of course.
Re: Replace X- braces without removing top?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:35 pm
by Barry Daniels
The PMTE is a brace that sits on top of the bridge plate under the back of the bridge. Mario said it was a tone enhancer, but I am using it to add resistance to doming behind the bridge, which is the cause of a lot of problems with this old Martin. It is not part of the original design but if someone decides to remove it in the future, they can grab it with a pair of pliers and pop it out.
Re: Replace X- braces without removing top?
Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 7:29 pm
by Tom Frei
Ok. Found It
It's actually not looking too baaaad. Maybe I can keep the X but the rest( braces) don't look so hot. I'll upload pics in a few days.
Measurements: lower bout: 15.25"
Length: 20.75"
Re: Replace X- braces without removing top?
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 10:56 am
by Tom Frei
I'm thinking...all need to be replaced...
Re: Replace X- braces without removing top?
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 4:13 pm
by Tom Frei
So, best way to remove? Hot iron on top+, heat gun or just heat gun + some water? It's all hide- glue.
Re: Replace X- braces without removing top?
Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 10:45 am
by Barry Daniels
They do look a bit thin. The best way to remove braces is to plane, chisel and scrape them down to the top. Spruce is easy to carve and you can remove them fairly quickly. Carving them off will do no damage to the top, whereas using water and heat will threaten the integrity of the top's center joint, and introduce moisture which could cause some instability in the top. A finger plane is my tool of choice for this job.
Re: Replace X- braces without removing top?
Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 2:16 pm
by Alan Carruth
What Barry said. The nice thing about hide glue is that new glue will stick to it, so you don't have to worry about getting all the old glue off.