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Re: JET air filtration units - current opinions?

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 12:35 am
by Steve Sawyer
Eric Knapp wrote: May I ask what particle counter brand/model you have and where you got it?
I don't know where Bob got his, Eric, but I linked to one at that price on Amazon in my post above...

Re: JET air filtration units - current opinions?

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 9:45 am
by Bob Gramann
https://smile.amazon.com/Dylos-DC1100-P ... s+1100+pro

The cheaper one doesn't count the .5 micron particles.

Re: JET air filtration units - current opinions?

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 7:43 pm
by Mark Fogleman
Barry Daniels wrote:The really fine stuff does not settle for a long time. An air filtration with a two stage filter has a much better chance of removing the sub micron level particles than a box fan with a simple house filter, or even the Filtrete or similar fabric filters.
I'm using the 3M Filtrete MPR 2800 "Ultrafine" 20x20 pleated hvac filters which capture down to 0.3 micron and pre-filter with a less effective/cheaper hvac filter to catch the large stuff. There was a study published in one of the woodworking magazines a while back reviewing air cleaners and included this set-up in the review. It worked as well as the others but needed longer to reach the same particle counts in the test shop as the larger units. Using it directly behind hand sanding work, time doesn't factor into my use because of the low volume of contaminated air directly at the intake of the fan. I also like being able to bring it in the house when the shop is too cold or hot and be able to work comfortably at the dining room table w/o spreading dust inside.

Re: JET air filtration units - current opinions?

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 10:56 pm
by Eric Knapp
Eric Knapp wrote:
Barry Daniels wrote:The thicker the filter, the better. That 5" should be effective.

HEPA filters are rated to remove 99.97% of particles that have a size down to 0.3 µm. And it's the sub micron stuff that cause the most problems because they get further down into your lungs.
Good point, Barry. That's another reason why I'm doing more with hand tools over time. I'm also using a P100 mask when I do really dusty things and I'll be looking for better ways to have cleaner air as I do more in the shop.
I checked my filter and is it rated to 0.3 microns. It's not the full HEPA of 99.97% but at 95% it is not bad at all. My shop's air is not dusty and I am not coughing when I'm out there. I think my cheap solution is much better than nothing and might not be much worse than the expensive ones after all.

-Eric

Re: JET air filtration units - current opinions?

Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 2:58 pm
by Barry Daniels
Eric, actually that filter rating is not that great, if you look at it like this: The difference between 99.97% and 95% is pretty large. One allows 0.03 percent through and the other lets 5% through, which is 167 times more. Of course, these numbers may not actually represent what is going on with your specific setup.

I see personal protection as something that most everyone can improve over time as you gear up. Just budget PPE into your shop expenditures to allow it to keep up with, or even get ahead of your expanding tool inventory and your time spent in the shop.

Re: JET air filtration units - current opinions?

Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 3:14 pm
by Bob Gramann
That air quality measuring device is a lot cheaper than any medical intervention. I was amazed at the particle count in what looked like clear air.