New build: The Alligatrix Stinger solid body electric
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New build: The Alligatrix Stinger solid body electric
After my long break I have activated myself and started working on several unfinished builds. A few weeks ago I finished a bolt-on neck solid body six-stringer. The model Alligatrix is of my own design, if not necessarily totally unique. Its structure is rather strattish and the "25.6 scale is close to the scale used by Fender. I have not tried to re-invent the wheel but rather create a concept with good playability that can be easily varied with different bridges and pickup constellations. With the prototype included this one is the 5th Alligatrix I have built- I decided to dub the yellow guitar laced with black "Stinger", such as a wasp or a bee.
The 3-pickup guitar has a humbucker at the bridge and two single coils as neck and middle pickups. The pickups, powered by neodymium button magnets, are also of my own design and manufacture. The twin-coil is call Slumbucker and the single coils Single Mothers, a Fat Strat combination. They are quite hot, the Slumbucker wound up to 14 kΩ and the Single Mothers to 10 kΩ (middle) and 7 kΩ (neck). Through the clean channel of my 50W hybrid head they sound quite civilized, darker than traditional Strat pickups but clear and nicely articulate. The overdrive channel turns them into aggressive hard rock pickups. The Slumbucker can be split to a single coil with a push-pull switch in the volume pot. Unlike the Strat the Alligatrix has just one tone pot with a 47nF cap instead of two and all pickups are connected to it, so I can roll down the extra highs when I need to. I shielded the pickup and control cavities carefully and to my delight there is very little hum.
This guitar was not a commissioned build, I built it just for fun, just because I wanted to. If I can find a buyer for it, of course I will sell it, but Iäll be happy to keep it if I don't.
These are the specs:
Body alder, colour candy yellow, acrylic lacquer finish, pickguard & binding black
Bolt-on neck maple, 650 mm/25.6" scale, rosewood fretboard, 22 medium jumbo frets, 6 mm MOP button fret markers, bone nut, acrylic lacquer finish, 6 in line Schaller type black tuners with 15:1 turn ratio
Neck & middle piickups NYDE Single Mothers with neodymium magnets; yellow pearl tops, neck 7.8 kΩ, middle 10.8 kΩ, bridge pickup NYDE Slumbucker with neodymium magnets; yellow pearl top 14.5 kΩ; middle pickup is reverse wound & reverse polarity. Slumbucker pickup can be split to single coil with push-pull switch.
1 volume pot 500 kΩ with push-pull switch, 1 tone pot 500 kΩ with 47nF cap, 5-way switch, yellow knobs & pickup selector switch tip
Black vintage type Strat trem with yellow arm tip, black hardware
I took a series of studio portraits of her. Here they come:
The 3-pickup guitar has a humbucker at the bridge and two single coils as neck and middle pickups. The pickups, powered by neodymium button magnets, are also of my own design and manufacture. The twin-coil is call Slumbucker and the single coils Single Mothers, a Fat Strat combination. They are quite hot, the Slumbucker wound up to 14 kΩ and the Single Mothers to 10 kΩ (middle) and 7 kΩ (neck). Through the clean channel of my 50W hybrid head they sound quite civilized, darker than traditional Strat pickups but clear and nicely articulate. The overdrive channel turns them into aggressive hard rock pickups. The Slumbucker can be split to a single coil with a push-pull switch in the volume pot. Unlike the Strat the Alligatrix has just one tone pot with a 47nF cap instead of two and all pickups are connected to it, so I can roll down the extra highs when I need to. I shielded the pickup and control cavities carefully and to my delight there is very little hum.
This guitar was not a commissioned build, I built it just for fun, just because I wanted to. If I can find a buyer for it, of course I will sell it, but Iäll be happy to keep it if I don't.
These are the specs:
Body alder, colour candy yellow, acrylic lacquer finish, pickguard & binding black
Bolt-on neck maple, 650 mm/25.6" scale, rosewood fretboard, 22 medium jumbo frets, 6 mm MOP button fret markers, bone nut, acrylic lacquer finish, 6 in line Schaller type black tuners with 15:1 turn ratio
Neck & middle piickups NYDE Single Mothers with neodymium magnets; yellow pearl tops, neck 7.8 kΩ, middle 10.8 kΩ, bridge pickup NYDE Slumbucker with neodymium magnets; yellow pearl top 14.5 kΩ; middle pickup is reverse wound & reverse polarity. Slumbucker pickup can be split to single coil with push-pull switch.
1 volume pot 500 kΩ with push-pull switch, 1 tone pot 500 kΩ with 47nF cap, 5-way switch, yellow knobs & pickup selector switch tip
Black vintage type Strat trem with yellow arm tip, black hardware
I took a series of studio portraits of her. Here they come:
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Re: New build: The Alligatrix Stinger solid body electric
There are also more than 100 work-in-progress shots from the workshop. I'll post them after I've selected the ones I think are the best. Get stung.
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Re: New build: The Alligatrix Stinger solid body electric
Back in the saddle, and cranking em out! Another great guitar, Markku!
Are you just using 42awg for those pickups? And they're steel slugs with the 1/8" thick neo buttons on the bottom? I've had good luck with the neo powered pickups I've made.
Are you just using 42awg for those pickups? And they're steel slugs with the 1/8" thick neo buttons on the bottom? I've had good luck with the neo powered pickups I've made.
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Thanks, Jason.
Yes, I've wound the pickups with AWG42 wire. The slugs are made of 5 mm steel bar and the 5 mm diameter magnets are 3 mm /"1/8 thick. The coils are taller than usual, so I don't lose much high end even when overwinding them. And personally I prefer a little gutsier tone with more bass and less shrill highs. The Single Mothers are actually a hybrid of Strat pickups and a Tele bridge pickup. The coils are the same size as a Tele bridge pup but structurally they resemble Strat pups, as they have plain flatwork and not the metal baseplate of the Tele pup. Soundwise they're somewhere in a triangle between Strat, Tele bridge and P90 pickups. The top sheet is the same ABS plastic that is used in pickguards, so the pickup top colour can be chosen from a vast array of colours.
The Slumbucker is pretty much two miniature Single Mothers connected in series. The baseplate and the coils are standard humbucker size, the coils just taller than standard bucker coils. Each polepiece has its own nedymium magnet. It sound like.. eh... like a hot humbucker. When split to a single coil the pickup sounds like a hot Strat pickup, not like a split humbucker. With a 5-way pickup selector and a push-pull switch I get quite a palette of sounds from one guitar.
Yes, I've wound the pickups with AWG42 wire. The slugs are made of 5 mm steel bar and the 5 mm diameter magnets are 3 mm /"1/8 thick. The coils are taller than usual, so I don't lose much high end even when overwinding them. And personally I prefer a little gutsier tone with more bass and less shrill highs. The Single Mothers are actually a hybrid of Strat pickups and a Tele bridge pickup. The coils are the same size as a Tele bridge pup but structurally they resemble Strat pups, as they have plain flatwork and not the metal baseplate of the Tele pup. Soundwise they're somewhere in a triangle between Strat, Tele bridge and P90 pickups. The top sheet is the same ABS plastic that is used in pickguards, so the pickup top colour can be chosen from a vast array of colours.
The Slumbucker is pretty much two miniature Single Mothers connected in series. The baseplate and the coils are standard humbucker size, the coils just taller than standard bucker coils. Each polepiece has its own nedymium magnet. It sound like.. eh... like a hot humbucker. When split to a single coil the pickup sounds like a hot Strat pickup, not like a split humbucker. With a 5-way pickup selector and a push-pull switch I get quite a palette of sounds from one guitar.
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Re: New build: The Alligatrix Stinger solid body electric
Hmm, so taller than a standard humbucker bobbin, huh? Isn't this what a Wide Range is, or a Travis Bean? I've seen a couple other folks follow this path, and I've wound a few tall P-90s, as well. I think throwing neos in the mix creates yet another tonal option. Super cool stuff!
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Neodymium magnets work nicely for me. I've also used different types of AlNiCos and ceramics and I like them all for different reasons. It's good to have a variety of magnets for varying sound palettes, such as having cupboard full of spices in the kitchen for diffrerent flavours.
By the way, I just noticed that I've been a mimf member for 6 years today.
By the way, I just noticed that I've been a mimf member for 6 years today.
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I like the way you have color matched the body, pickups, control knobs. Nice job!
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Thanks, Christ. The pickups are not the same tone of yellow as the body and the knobs, but they're close enough. I could have wound the pickups with standard size coils and used matching yellow covers, but then the pickups wouldn't have sounded the same. I'm quite happy with the way they are.
I promised to post some work-in-progress photos. I may not have time to post them all in one session, but at least I can start.
I promised to post some work-in-progress photos. I may not have time to post them all in one session, but at least I can start.
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What a great looking guitar!
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On to the neck then. I had a nice rosewood blank for the fretboard. I started by measuring and marking out the fret positions with a digital measuring tape.
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Cutting out the neck from the blank with a band saw. I try to cut as close to the outlines as possible, yet leaving enough extra wood for shaping.
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I shape the neck with a belt sander first. Yes, there will be dust, but I have found that this works for me, as I get the shape close to what I want quite quickly. Using a belt sander calls for caution, though. It's very easy to ruin a good neck by sanding too deep.
After crude shaping with a belt sander I move on to a sanding drum attached to a compressed air driven sander. I have also used extensions on electric power drills, but after purchasing a new compressor with adequate air flow I have preferred air driven tools. They are more durable than electric devices, they don't have carbon brushes that wear out and just need regular lubrication. Of course I use many electric tools as well, All tools aren't available as air driven versions and I can't schlep a big compressor everywhere. No prejudice against any tools.
After crude shaping with a belt sander I move on to a sanding drum attached to a compressed air driven sander. I have also used extensions on electric power drills, but after purchasing a new compressor with adequate air flow I have preferred air driven tools. They are more durable than electric devices, they don't have carbon brushes that wear out and just need regular lubrication. Of course I use many electric tools as well, All tools aren't available as air driven versions and I can't schlep a big compressor everywhere. No prejudice against any tools.
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