New build: The Saltire Bass
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New build: The Saltire Bass
Long time, no show. Yep, I've been away for quite a while and it does feel good to finish new builds again after a lengthy break. I had some health issues such as the carpal tunnel syndrome - in my both hands. My hands were so numb that there was a great risk of cutting off pieces of myself instead of wood. A couple of years ago I had two surgical operations within half a year and convalescence that never seemed to end. My hands are still not what they used to be, but at least they're not getting worse and I can live with the current level of numbness. To see the light side, now I have an excuse if my builds don't meet the expectations.
I'm more or less actively working on 4 unfinished guitars, a couple of pickup projects and there are former builds waiting in line to be improved. None of these have a strict deadline, so I'm working on them when I have the time and the energy. The week before I was spurred by a birthday-formed deadline into finishing a bass guitar for a friend who turned 50. He has studied literature at the University of Glasgow and he's a a devout friend of Scotland. A year ago, encouraged by a few wee drams, he humbly wished to some day have a bass with a Saltire cross on the body. Now he has one.
The bass is a little like a wedding dress: something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue. The bridge is a Fender P-bass bridge, the fretboard is from an Ibanez bass and the pickups from a damaged and dismantled new Samick bass.
Here are the specs:
Body alder, colour candy blue with white pearloid celluloid cross, acrylic lacquer finish
Bolt-on neck maple 864 mm/34", rosewood fretboard 22 frets, white pearloid fret markers, bone nut, dual-action truss rod, sealed tuners,
Neck pickup Samick PB with ceramic magnet 7.5 kΩ, bridge pickup Samick Jazz bass pickup with ceramic magnet 7.0 kΩ
2 volume pots 250 kΩ, 1 master tone 250 kΩ with 47nF cap, electronics grounded through LifeSaver filter
Vintage style Fender chrome bridge, chrome hardware
I'm more or less actively working on 4 unfinished guitars, a couple of pickup projects and there are former builds waiting in line to be improved. None of these have a strict deadline, so I'm working on them when I have the time and the energy. The week before I was spurred by a birthday-formed deadline into finishing a bass guitar for a friend who turned 50. He has studied literature at the University of Glasgow and he's a a devout friend of Scotland. A year ago, encouraged by a few wee drams, he humbly wished to some day have a bass with a Saltire cross on the body. Now he has one.
The bass is a little like a wedding dress: something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue. The bridge is a Fender P-bass bridge, the fretboard is from an Ibanez bass and the pickups from a damaged and dismantled new Samick bass.
Here are the specs:
Body alder, colour candy blue with white pearloid celluloid cross, acrylic lacquer finish
Bolt-on neck maple 864 mm/34", rosewood fretboard 22 frets, white pearloid fret markers, bone nut, dual-action truss rod, sealed tuners,
Neck pickup Samick PB with ceramic magnet 7.5 kΩ, bridge pickup Samick Jazz bass pickup with ceramic magnet 7.0 kΩ
2 volume pots 250 kΩ, 1 master tone 250 kΩ with 47nF cap, electronics grounded through LifeSaver filter
Vintage style Fender chrome bridge, chrome hardware
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Re: New build: The Saltire Bass
I took work-in-progress photos of most stages of building the instrument and I'll post them a little later.
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Re: New build: The Saltire Bass
Markku, you've been missed! Sorry to hear of the CTS woes, but I'm glad you're in the shop again. Fun first showing on your return. Can't wait to see the others.
-Ruining perfectly good wood, one day at a time.
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Re: New build: The Saltire Bass
That bass reminds me to the first bass i bought - a Vester Witch. Same color, also 2L+2R angled headstock, also PJ with pretty much identical pickup positions, and pickup impedances. I love mostly the split coil and must admit to find bridge pickups that close to the bridge a bit problematic, if played alone. But that's truly a matter of personal taste and preferences.
In summary: a really nice bass, and it is fine to hear that You friend enjoys it.
And all the best for Your health.
In summary: a really nice bass, and it is fine to hear that You friend enjoys it.
And all the best for Your health.
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Re: New build: The Saltire Bass
Thank you, Jason & Beate.
It truly is good to be back in the saddle. Next week I'll continue working on some of the unfinished projects. I assembled one build with an H-S-S pickup constellation already and test-played it before taking it apart for the paint job. I was quite pleased with the sound and the playability. Now I'm waiting for a package of reflective paint powder to arrive. I planned to make a candy yellow finish, but had some trouble getting the tint right. The silver paint that I spray the transparent yellow over is blueish and the final colour closer to green than yellow - unless I add red tint to the yellow and get a brownish orange tint instead. That's not the colour I'm after. Quite clearly the paint layer under the yellow has to be neutral white to yield a clean yellow. The reflective paint powder I ordered is the kind used in traffick signs and safety gear. If I spray it over silver, add a transparent yellow and top it with several layers of clearcoat, the result should be really nice. At least I hope so.
On Tuesday I assembled a pair of humbuckers with coils wound around rail type polepieces. The magnets are 3x5x50 mm neoydymium bar magnets and the coils wound up to 4-4.8 kΩ each. The neck pickup resistance is 8.38 kΩ and the bridge pickup is 9.35 kΩ - traditionally moderate windings. I've used neodymium magnets in my pickups before and grown to like them, as I get high output without overwinding the coils and sacrificing the high end of the sound.
Not being able to fix the coils to the baseplate with screws I glued them in place with silicone paste. The silicone has set by monday, then I can wax the pickups and wind some tape around then coils. I can't wait to install these babes into a new guitar and hear them sing.
It truly is good to be back in the saddle. Next week I'll continue working on some of the unfinished projects. I assembled one build with an H-S-S pickup constellation already and test-played it before taking it apart for the paint job. I was quite pleased with the sound and the playability. Now I'm waiting for a package of reflective paint powder to arrive. I planned to make a candy yellow finish, but had some trouble getting the tint right. The silver paint that I spray the transparent yellow over is blueish and the final colour closer to green than yellow - unless I add red tint to the yellow and get a brownish orange tint instead. That's not the colour I'm after. Quite clearly the paint layer under the yellow has to be neutral white to yield a clean yellow. The reflective paint powder I ordered is the kind used in traffick signs and safety gear. If I spray it over silver, add a transparent yellow and top it with several layers of clearcoat, the result should be really nice. At least I hope so.
On Tuesday I assembled a pair of humbuckers with coils wound around rail type polepieces. The magnets are 3x5x50 mm neoydymium bar magnets and the coils wound up to 4-4.8 kΩ each. The neck pickup resistance is 8.38 kΩ and the bridge pickup is 9.35 kΩ - traditionally moderate windings. I've used neodymium magnets in my pickups before and grown to like them, as I get high output without overwinding the coils and sacrificing the high end of the sound.
Not being able to fix the coils to the baseplate with screws I glued them in place with silicone paste. The silicone has set by monday, then I can wax the pickups and wind some tape around then coils. I can't wait to install these babes into a new guitar and hear them sing.
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Re: New build: The Saltire Bass
I promised to post work-in-progress pics of the Saltire Bass. Here they come.
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Re: New build: The Saltire Bass
I have a bass build finishing up with some interesting blade style pickups using neos. Another two guitars have neos on the slug side of some hybrid humbuckers. I'm liking the sound of the neos under the hood.
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Initially I had thought of making the Saltire cross with 12x24 mm pieces of MOP, but to get an even cross I ended up using celluloid binding instead. As celluloid dissolves in acetone, it's easy to glue strips of binding together. I just taped the strips side by side and applied generous amounts of acetone to them with a narrow artist's brush. The pieces stuck together really nicely. After spraying the body with silver paint I waited for the paint to dry and glued then cross to into the channels with acetone, securing it with masking tape and clamps.
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The silver paint is half thinner and it dries very quickly, so I could move on to spraying the transparent blue tint. I use the Color Tone liquid tints from StewMac. It took me long time to find good transparent tints and now I'm sticking to these ones. They dissolve almost in any solvent, give a beautifully transparent and even tone and are easy to apply directly on wood with a rag diluted with water or sprayed mixed with thinner and 20% clearcoat.
The transparent tint dries almost immediately and I can proceed to clearcoat right after spraying the tint. I use different spray guns for primer, metallics, tint and clearcoat, so the tint gets to dry before I have mixed the lacquer and set up the spray gun. Now I usually start finishing the neck as well, giving it the first layer of clearcoat.
The transparent tint dries almost immediately and I can proceed to clearcoat right after spraying the tint. I use different spray guns for primer, metallics, tint and clearcoat, so the tint gets to dry before I have mixed the lacquer and set up the spray gun. Now I usually start finishing the neck as well, giving it the first layer of clearcoat.
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Re: New build: The Saltire Bass
The following steps are new coats of clearcoat and wet sanding between them, like there's no end to it. The neck was sprayed 4 times and the body received 5 layers of lacquer. And an equal number of wet sandings.
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The final wet sanding was done with 800, 1200, 1500, 2000 and 2500 grit papers. The lacquer was then polished to a mirrorlike shine with a compressed air driven random orbital sander, a polishing sponge and Farécla compounds. The tricky parts were polished with a buffer wheel attached to a drill extension. First I buffed the neck an the body three times with Farécla grade 3 paste and then twice with grade 10 polish, wiping the dry residue off with a micro fibre cloth as I went on.
I also polished the frets with a Dremel-type grinder, a felt buffer wheel and polishing wax.
As I couldn't have a camera on a tripod and self timer and as I needed my both hands to assemble the bass I don't have any pictures of the final lap. I suppose you all know how it looks when a neck is rigged with machine heads and attached to the body with screws or how installing pickups looks like. If not, you'll just have to imagine it all.
Anyway, I did finish the bass around 10.00 PM and was home before midnight. And there was still another week to the birthday party. Phew!
I also polished the frets with a Dremel-type grinder, a felt buffer wheel and polishing wax.
As I couldn't have a camera on a tripod and self timer and as I needed my both hands to assemble the bass I don't have any pictures of the final lap. I suppose you all know how it looks when a neck is rigged with machine heads and attached to the body with screws or how installing pickups looks like. If not, you'll just have to imagine it all.
Anyway, I did finish the bass around 10.00 PM and was home before midnight. And there was still another week to the birthday party. Phew!
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Re: New build: The Saltire Bass
Great thread!
Thanks
Thanks
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Lovely bass....I love the color and that headstock shape. Simple but elegant.