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Stephen Faulk · Post by **Stephen Faulk** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:52 pm

Clay, that is really a good idea, I might just do that. Besides being a vetted design, it is recognizable as a classic design that buyer & lookers can place. While my plantilla is attractive for what it is designed for a size 1 could even be a better size for the customer volumetrically. There is one guy making copies of E. Laprevotte and he seems to never stop making them!

Brad Heinzen · Post by **Brad Heinzen** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:51 pm

Oops - just saw a typo in my earlier post. That small plantilla I've been using is single O, not a 00, specfically an 0-18. As Clay notes, the 00 size guitars don't feel much different from a standard CG.

Jim Kirby · Post by **Jim Kirby** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:08 pm

Clay Schaeffer wrote:Hi Stephen,
If you don't mind adding to your plantillas, you might want to consider the Martin size 1. It makes a nice small bodied guitar with a full size sound. I think the added length(19 in.) supports the low notes better than shorter bodied guitars, while the narrower body (12 3/4 in. L.B.) gives them the small guitar feel. They can be built long scale (25 1/2 inches) or short scale (24.9 inches) and still sound good. Double O's are good too, but feel about the same as a full size classical and require about the same size wood.

Yes, I like the Martin Size 1 too - Clay graciously lent me his forms which I hung onto for quite a while and ungraciously didn't use, opting instead for a 1850'ish design that Mike Collins sent me. But, the Size 1 is quite a bit bigger than a Requinto, or at least the Lone Star requinto that I have. A terz is about a Size 5, yes?

Interzresting!

Addendum - I realized I'm a little bit in the dark here. What is the tuning of a terz? If it's standard, I'd wholeheartedly add my vote to trying a Size 1. I like parlor-sized guitars best now - maybe an influence from my classical building where my plantilla of choice is the also-small Romanillos (in the 1972 variety, rather than the slightly fatter in the waist book variety - happens to us all over time, no?). My favorite SS that I own right now is a Larrivee parlor (with the short 24" scale) and I can't wait to get my Size 1 done so I can get back to a more normal feeling scale length.

Stephen Neal Saqui · Post by **Stephen Neal Saqui** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 5:20 pm

[quote="Brad Heinzen"]"I'm not going to take the fish glue bait anymore either. I now have ten years of fish glue guitars out there, and still don't know what the big deal is."

Fish Glue....I've got a Manuel Reyes flamenco made in the 60's with fish glue...today the top, binding and purfling are all undone and flopping in the wind. That's only one example of many. I'd prefer to know that my instruments are gonna last. Do what you want.

Jim Kirby · Post by **Jim Kirby** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 5:57 pm

Stephen Neal Saqui wrote:
Brad Heinzen wrote:"I'm not going to take the fish glue bait anymore either. I now have ten years of fish glue guitars out there, and still don't know what the big deal is."

Fish Glue....I've got a Manuel Reyes flamenco made in the 60's with fish glue...today the top, binding and purfling are all undone and flopping in the wind. That's only one example of many. I'd prefer to know that my instruments are gonna last. Do what you want.

I've been using fish glue pretty much for everything except where either fast grab or lack of water matters for most of a decade now, but the two tenor ukes I'm building right now are all Titebond. Have I succumbed to the fish glue paranoia? I've had no problem with fish glue joints coming undone, but I'm only a decade into the process. At any rate, I know I'll always do tentalones (glue blocks - however the heck you want to spell them) with hide glue.

Jason Rodgers · Post by **Jason Rodgers** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 11:19 pm

Jim Kirby wrote: What is the tuning of a terz?

Up a minor third, like standard tuning capoed on the third fret.

Stephen Faulk · Post by **Stephen Faulk** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:14 am

Stephen Neal Saqui wrote:
Brad Heinzen wrote:"I'm not going to take the fish glue bait anymore either. I now have ten years of fish glue guitars out there, and still don't know what the big deal is."

Fish Glue....I've got a Manuel Reyes flamenco made in the 60's with fish glue...today the top, binding and purfling are all undone and flopping in the wind. That's only one example of many. I'd prefer to know that my instruments are gonna last. Do what you want.

You got any pictures of that 60's Reyes you're willing to share? I'm really interested his 1960's work.

Bob Hammond · Post by **Bob Hammond** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:12 pm

Hummph. So far as I can tell, we don't learn anything by doing the same thing every day.

Some people might be critical and say that your hearing acuity has declined, and others might say that it's improved. And others might say that your taste and discretion has been altered in some unfathomable way.

As for me, I say that so far as musical tastes and instruments are concerned, that it's a Big World, and that it can be fun to try something different instead of limiting oneself to making vanishingly smaller incremental improvements.

MIMF

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