Baritone guitar
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Baritone guitar
I have been asked by a friend if I could build him a baritone guitar. As a first step, a set of plans would seem a good idea, but I've tried the obvious (Stewmac LMI etc.) without success. Can anyone point me in the direction of a good set of plans, and any help regarding body size, variation in brace sizes etc. would be most welcome. Thanks in anticipation, Dave.
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Re: Baritone guitar
I don't know of any printed plans for baritones. I think I would look at the baritone offerings of the factory guitar makers and see what I liked about them, then create my own plan from what I liked of those.
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Re: Baritone guitar
Hi Dave: I built an 8 string baritone about 18 months ago baised in the Taylor GT8 Baritone. At that time there was a discussion on this forum about baritone guitars, but no plans available. I really liked the concept of the 8 string baritone, and called Taylor guitars and asked a few questions. I don't remember who at Taylor I talked with, but he said that the bracing on the GT8 was just a bit taller than the standard bracing for that body shape. I decided to use a drednaught body and made my bracing about 1/8" taller than normal. I used the 27" scale length that Taylor uses,(so I had to move the bridge to keep the neck joining at the 14th fret). Elixir makes a set of strings for the GT8, and I used those for mine. I love this guitar, the added harmonic strings on the center courses brightens up the overal tone of the guitar and makes it much more useable as a solo instrument. Everyone who has played this instrument had good things to say about it. I am almost finished with a second baritone I am making for my older brother, who loved mine. I would check out the Taylor GT8, there are several videos on youtube. I would get a good set of plans for a body shape you like (dreadnaught, Jumbo?) modify the bracing and go for it. I am very glad I did. Good Luck! Keep us posted.
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Re: Baritone guitar
Hi Doug and Patrick, thanks to you both for your input, as I also have potentially a client interested in a jumbo, I think I will get a set of medium jumbo plans and modify them for the baritone. If the other commission comes to be, then I will already have the plans available. BTW Patrick, the figure on your guitar looks absolutely stunning, I bet it sounds great too, congratulations on a fine looking piece of work.
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Re: Baritone guitar
In my own design thoughts, the critical components are:
1) What do you want for the scale length? I think of 27" as a minimum, but you can look at the D'Addario technical specs for their strings. They give you enough information that you can pick a string, a length and a note and then figure out the tension. I would try to choose a string weight that will give you the open-string note that you want when it is about the same tension as a normal guitar string on a normal guitar. Will that string weight be too big? Adjust the scale length until you get an answer you like.
2) Where do you want the bridge to fall? I would like the bridge to be about 40% of the distance from the waist to the tail. Or, if you are into the Golden Ratio, 38.2% of that distance.
3) What fret do you want to place at the top of the guitar body? 12? 14? I favor 12-frets with a cutaway.
My approach after that would be to take a body shape I like, scale it up and then adjust the upper bout until everything fit and I liked the shape.
Then you gotta figure out the body depth. Good luck with that. Some people think it is terribly important. Some don't.
1) What do you want for the scale length? I think of 27" as a minimum, but you can look at the D'Addario technical specs for their strings. They give you enough information that you can pick a string, a length and a note and then figure out the tension. I would try to choose a string weight that will give you the open-string note that you want when it is about the same tension as a normal guitar string on a normal guitar. Will that string weight be too big? Adjust the scale length until you get an answer you like.
2) Where do you want the bridge to fall? I would like the bridge to be about 40% of the distance from the waist to the tail. Or, if you are into the Golden Ratio, 38.2% of that distance.
3) What fret do you want to place at the top of the guitar body? 12? 14? I favor 12-frets with a cutaway.
My approach after that would be to take a body shape I like, scale it up and then adjust the upper bout until everything fit and I liked the shape.
Then you gotta figure out the body depth. Good luck with that. Some people think it is terribly important. Some don't.
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Re: Baritone guitar
This might helpDave Gibbon wrote:I have been asked by a friend if I could build him a baritone guitar. As a first step, a set of plans would seem a good idea, but I've tried the obvious (Stewmac LMI etc.) without success. Can anyone point me in the direction of a good set of plans, and any help regarding body size, variation in brace sizes etc. would be most welcome. Thanks in anticipation, Dave.
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